1985 HYDRA

1985

HYDRA

 

LIVE AT THE NARROWBOAT PUB, NOTTINGHAM 2ND FEBRUARY 1985

RECORDED BY ADAM

The Devil’s Advocate 4:33

(Music Firman, Lyrics Walkyier)

Scream And Scream Again 5:32

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Something Wicked This Way Comes 4:44

(Music Firman, Lyrics Walkyier)

Sleep Disturbance 8:18

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Crawling Over Me 4:16

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

The Scarlet Woman 4:12

(Music Firman, Lyrics Walkyier)

Watching You 5:31

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Countess Bathory 4:00

(Music & Lyrics VENOM)

DRUM SOLO 1:48

(Daley)

We Never Saw You Crucified 7:19

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

King Of All Hell 5:45

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Trying To Be Artificial 9:18

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Prince Of Heaven 8:22

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

 

According to the bio on the inner sleeve insert of SABBAT’S ‘History Of A Time To Come’ LP, FRAZER and ANDY first met at a HELL gig in Feb ’85

“The Sabbat Story, Part One:
It all began on one cold February night back in 1985 when a local band by the name of “Hell” played a gig at a small club near Nottingham. In the audience was one Frazer Craske, a young guy from Nottingham, who played bass in a band named “Hydra”. His schoolfriend Martin Walkyier was the singer with “Hydra”. The two had recently had some problems with their guitarist who prefered the melodious side of Metal where as Martin and Frazer wanted to play the music they both listened to: fast and hard Metal as played by Metallica, Slayer and Mercyful Fate. At this very concert Frazer ran into one Andy Sneap, a guitarist who was on the lookout for a new band. They got talking, discovered their mutual interests and exchanged phone numbers.”

 

LIVE AT THE NARROWBOAT PUB, NOTTINGHAM 12TH APRIL 1985

RECORDED BY ADAM

The Devil’s Advocate 4:18

(Music Firman, Lyrics Walkyier)

Scream And Scream Again 5:08

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Something Wicked This Way Comes 4:52

(Music Firman, Lyrics Walkyier)

Sleep Disturbance 7:08

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Crawling Over Me 3:54

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

The Scarlet Woman 3:44

(Music Firman, Lyrics Walkyier)

Killing Myself To See Ya 5:03

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Watching You 4:52

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Buried Alive 4:50

(Music & Lyrics VENOM)

We Never Saw You Crucified 4:08

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

King Of All Hell 5:29

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Step Outside 6:15

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Trying To Be Artificial 8:29

(Music & Lyrics Firman)

Countess Bathory 4:21

(Music & Lyrics VENOM)

 

JUNE – ANDY SNEAP joins as second guitarist.

 

LIVE AT THE MARDI GRAS, NOTTINGHAM

ADAM:
I think we only did four gigs you know; our first gig was on stage at school in Oct ’84, there’s the two that are on the tapes at The Narrowboat, we did a gig at The Mardi Gras as well and Andy Sneap came to that, because he’d already been recruited.

FRAZER:
I went to a Hell show at Platform One in Nuneaton. There’s a picture of me at the front of the gig on one of the reissues they put out, and I’m stood next to Andy Sneap, although we didn’t know each other at the time. I knew Kev Bower anyway, because I used to buy all my guitar stuff from him when he worked at Carlsboro, and I started talking to him and told him we were looking for another guitarist, and he said, ‘He’s one!’ And was pointing to Andy, who was helping pack up their guitars – because Andy was being taught to play guitar by Dave Halliday. So we swapped numbers, and I remember I wrote ‘Arnold’, because that was where I lived, next to the number, and he thought my name was Arnold! but it seemed a perfect match to us, because he had long blonde hair, and Adam had long dark hair; I was thinking ‘Judas Priest!’ – because we were all teenagers, and that’s how we thought. And he also had a white Flying V, so what more did he need? He came down to rehearsal and he just had literally tons of riffs. But he didn’t really get on with Adam, as they were both lead guitarists, and both from different backgrounds, and almost as soon as he came in, Adam left.”

 

TWO WEEKS LATER – ADAM leaves

 

ADAM:
Now the thing that I’ve always had a problem with is that people think that there was this big thing and also that Andy replaced me. Andy didn’t replace me.

What I didn’t like, and I think did upset the apple-cart a bit was that they sort of went behind my back to recruit another guitarist. Now I’m not saying that it wasn’t a good move because we probably needed.. something .. but more than that we needed a better drummer, and I have to say at the time, probably a better bass player but Frazer obviously practised and he got better and better. I left of my own accord. I think possibly the spark had gone.

Andy, by his own admission, was a cocky little golden boy at the time. I’ve had many lovely times with Andy over the years, not so recent – probably not seen him for 8 or 9 years – but there wasn’t really any patching up to do.
But what I didn’t like was that it was all behind my back. I was already falling out of love with it I think a bit. It was already going in a direction I wasn’t that fussed about…

We all chose our paths. I do remember one comment. It’s funny how certain things stick with you. But they were sort of having, around this time, little get togethers, I think at Mark’s house, where they were doing things like cutting up big pieces of card and painting gravestones for the stage set and this that and the other and I wasn’t really involved. I wasn’t really asked I don’t think but I can’t remember ever attending any of those kinds of things. A guy, a friend of ours, again he’s a mate now, let bygones be bygones, but I remember a line came out that “You’re never flippin’ there Grotch to help us out” and I really resented it because I felt like firing back with ‘There wouldn’t be no fucking band if you didn’t have Grotch in it because I’ve written every single piece of bloody music alright, so you go and cut your cardboard headstones out and this that and the other and I’ll provide the songs, because we need songs more than we need cardboard fuckin headstones! (laughs) So that really is the only sort of … two or three little things that when you start adding it up…

But I was in tears, I phoned Martin, and I was in tears when I left, because I just rang him up. I said ‘I’m not feeling it anymore mate’ I don’t know if I’d failed to turn up to a rehearsal or two because I wasn’t feeling the vibe. I can’t really remember. I’ll be honest with you – I’d started going out – girls – boozin’ – this that and the other – became probably more interesting for me. I think just my enthusiasm was off anyway.

But I went to their first gig, supported them at college in Arnold, Gedling in Nottinghamshire where Andy couldn’t even face the crowd. Only a small crowd, just a few college kids and that. We were sat down the front and he just turned around because he was so bloody shy and embarrassed! I went in the dressing-room and I got cold-shouldered by him again and I remember thinking ‘I’m actually being really decent here, because I could get hold of you and say “You know what mate, we weren’t doing too bad until you came along”‘

That was, I don’t know about bitter because I never really felt that. I remember when ‘History Of A Time To Come’ came out I phoned Martin and I was over the moon for him. I went out and bought it – didn’t really like it – I haven’t played it for about 30 years – but I just wanted to support them. And that was despite … they went behind my back really to do what they did, and I didn’t like that. We only had a few rehearsals when it was a five-piece and Andy came along and he just was cold-shouldering me. Very, I don’t know, like a bit of a spoilt brat and stuff and I think I just thought ‘you know what, this has run its course, I’ll let these guys get on with it.’

But all the better for them because they got where they wanted to go, they went in the direction that they wanted to go and it wasn’t where I was going to end up. The kind of music they ended up doing I couldn’t and wouldn’t have wanted to play anyway so.. I had even then and certainly now just an ear for music and to be able to write. A friend of mine once said – lovely quote he said “Adam Firman the guy shits melodies, he picks up a guitar and just plays and he plays songs” but I’ve never been a thrasher, I’ve never been twiddly and technical…

Any regrets? No. I don’t think so and I never have. I don’t think I’d have been happy. If they’d have got super famous and would have toured the universe and I’d have made a million dollars out of it or whatever, then I might be sitting here now thinking ‘God, you missed the opportunity to go on tours and have a record deal and this that and the other’ but from what I’ve heard, despite Martin’s success, one or two comments (from Frazer of all people) that he’s very bitter and twisted about the industry and stuff and he’s just sort of plodding along not doing much at the moment, so I don’t know.

If I see Martin I’ll give him a great big hug – if he’s interested, because I don’t think he’d give a flying you-know-what to be honest with you.

Frazer … I’ve had a bit of dialogue with him and I’ve seen him – not for a few years but I’ve dropped in on where he used to work. I don’t know if he’s still got his business with COVID but we’ve had a few laughs. We did have a meet-up, actually, we had a bit of a reunion; me, Mark, a couple of guys and Frazer. We went out for a few drinks one night about a year or two ago and that was nice and we should do it more post-COVID.

We talk of nothing other than fond memories and Scit, to be fair, I think he’s very, what’s the word – probably quite sentimental about it but I’m the most sentimental because it’s all I’ve got and I never went any further.

I think if you spoke to Martin, he’d hate the thought of anything to do with HYDRA coming out (laughs) because he’d be embarrassed, but I’ve got nothing to be embarrassed about, it was just happy days with my friends.

As Adam had contributed virtually all of the music, HYDRA was effectively disbanded at this point

Martin, Mark, Andy & Frazer formed a new band they called:

SABBAT

ADAM later recruited new musicians to reform

HYDRA mkII